The EU as an island of the blessed is history. With the Russian war of aggression against Ukraine and the election of Donald Trump as US president, first cooperation with Moscow ended - and then the transatlantic friendship. Where does Europe's future lie now? Writer and USA expert Daniel Kehlmann and political consultant and Eastern Europe expert Ivan Krastev discuss this with long-time SZ correspondent Cathrin Kahlweit.
In German and English.
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